Session Zero Heroes - A TTRPG Actual Play Podcast
Skylar: Welcome back, everybody. This is the Q and a part two. We're just going to jump right back into it. So sit tight and enjoy these crazy answers to all of your benders and bruise questions.
Dave: Brock, this question's coming to you from Breadbowler 44. Okay, following the finale, does Brock give up rumble fighting, or is he still competing? Will he compete again?
Cameron: I could see him competing again, but now that he has to help run the blissful brew, what is he.
Skylar: I don't got enough time.
Cameron: I got it.
Mikayla: I don't know. Ash just ditched us, so, you know, you could too.
Skylar: To learn how to read.
Cameron: To learn how to read.
Cameron: And Sora just keeps bugging him, just like, I don't know, getting married or something. Take a, hint of this lady just can't take a hand.
Skylar: Do you want to go get coffee? Do you want to go to the theme park? The carnival?
Cameron: Yeah, just, man, she just won't stop gagging.
Cameron: I don't know. Kiss.
Skylar: Do you want to go ring shopping.
Dave: Until, like, water freezing in winter, it cracks Brock's rock exterior.
Cameron: That'S right. Sora keep adding, he'll break one of these days.
Skylar: The question was, does he start back up at Rumble stadium? And the follow up question is, but does something happen between Brock and Sora?
Cameron: Well, he was very obviously oblivious to any sort of advances being made by Sora.
Skylar: To what extent do you think, what do you think her breaking point is where she just finally says. She's like, dang it, man, I'm into you.
Cameron: I don't know. I feel like with the way that.
Mikayla: Brock, Brock asks her to write a love letter to some old woman.
Cameron: Like.
Cameron: Hey, I need help. I need help expressing my love. She's like, oh, really? Oh, okay.
Skylar: What do you want?
Cameron: Will you help me write a letter?
Cameron: He's like, yeah.
Cameron: And it just starts off like, oh, this classic.
Skylar: Okay, great.
Cameron: It's the classic sitcom, thing where, like, the one character thinks the other one likes some, and so they start like, can you help me write this letter? And they think gets to them the whole time. And at the very end, they go, great.
Cameron: And then I take it out of her hands. I take it over to the pirate.
Cameron: He writes on the top of the lamp, he closes it up, and he writes, random pirate lady.
Cameron: She'd be like, perfect. She's in town. And, I, like, dap her up on the way out. She's like, thanks, bro. I think that would have been fantastic.
Skylar: But I think that's a great scenario.
Cameron: I think something like, that would sooner happen than Brock realized that Sora's into him.
Skylar: Sure.
Cameron: until she literally hits him over the head with a rock, which, honestly.
Cameron: For him, that's his language. That's his love language.
Cameron: Yeah. So, honestly, all Sora would need to do is just take a heavy rock and just hit him in the head with it and be like, I can read now. I want to take you away from all this.
Cameron: Oh, nice.
Skylar: The blissful room.
Cameron: But as far as the earth rumble stuff, I think he would at least continue it a little bit on the side. It was never a passion of his. It was more out of necessity.
Skylar: That's fair.
Cameron: His real passion is pirate ladies.
Cameron: Oh, roll your eyes.
Skylar: He had her shot.
Mikayla: He clearly did not.
Skylar: She wanted nothing to do to start.
Cameron: Going for younger, viral ladies.
Cameron: Well, Sora's not a pirate.
Mikayla: She would be one just for you.
Cameron: I was not saying this feels like.
Skylar: A weird situation where she's like, she comes out dressed like a pirate, and she's like, and now does this work for you?
Cameron: So ash goes and joins the war, and Brock join becomes a pirate. I'd be down for that.
Skylar: Nice. That'd be fun. what happened, Jimmy? Jimmy, n 95 is asking the real question. Scare what happens to Dilbert?
Cameron: I think Guo's got ownership over him, right?
Skylar: Is he your squid?
Dave: I don't know what the lifespan of a turtle squid is.
Cameron: Well, turtles, like a turtles, live a long time.
Skylar: So what's the lifespan of a squirrel? I was gonna say it was split the difference.
Cameron: Yeah, we'll have to. We'll have to. Average amount?
Skylar: 300.
Cameron: Well, how old was when we found him? I thought he was, like, young.
Skylar: Yeah, he was a fresh squid chopped up and served. Okay.
Cameron: A giant squid can live up to 14 years.
Mikayla: Oh, my giant squid.
Cameron: What if regular squid is three?
Skylar: Oh, well, hey, three.
Cameron: But if it's got giant here, that's like 50 something. Hey, 50.
Skylar: No, no, no. Let's keep playing off the idea that he's secretly a giant. Like, what it turtle squids like, they don't.
Mikayla: He's just a baby.
Skylar: Yeah, he's just
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Skylar: a baby one. and then glow's, like, taking care of him and feeding him, and over time, he's this giant freaking squidgesthe squid that's washing dishes in the blissful room.
Cameron: Dilbert, the big black squid.
Dave: And at first, you know, he makes a tank and it's, like, displayed in the shop.
Cameron: Nice, right?
Dave: Like, you might make a bigger tank if he ever builds another building. But then, yeah, he just keeps growing and then, like, eventually he gets so big that instead of, like, riding a boat round to get all these ingredients, he's just riding Dilbert like a lapras.
Cameron: Like, he lives. He lives in the ocean, and he blows a magic conch shell, and then dilder comes on surface, and then in.
Dave: The far future, he, like, builds a blissful brew on top of.
Skylar: Nice. It's like the ship in one way comes back to one piece.
Cameron: Ship in one piece. Yeah.
Skylar: That's awesome. I love that idea.
Dave: I like this idea of, yeah, Dilbert's just a baby. Like, they're so common when they're, whatever newborns that people just eat them or.
Skylar: Whatever, but they get fished to such a point where, like, you don't usually see the big ones.
Dave: Yeah.
Skylar: This is a rare survivor because the.
Cameron: Main thing that makes them grow is love.
Skylar: Aw, that's beautiful, Connor.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: What do you got?
Cameron: So, question for Mika. Mikayla. Mika, knowing how the southern water tribe you came from end up fleeing their territory, do you think your father ever ran into anyone from your tribe while he was out looking for you, given how they were spread across the world?
Mikayla: You see, I thought a lot of them disappeared into the cave.
Skylar: You found notes from at the time chief, which was technically the shaman from the. From the prequel, and he said that they were gonna just flee, and he was hoping that he'd be able to keep power or whatever and stay the chief, even though they, like, go somewhere else.
Mikayla: Well, then, yeah, I figured probably he would have ran into them.
Cameron: Sure.
Mikayla: I don't know if he would have necessarily tried to talk with them, per se, just for the fact that he knows that they're hunting his child.
Skylar: Oh, even now?
Mikayla: I don't know.
Skylar: Or would they have given up on that?
Mikayla: I mean, they might have. Would have given up. I guess they had to deal with all the spirit things, and now they're just. They have to rebuild their home. So maybe they would, but I don't know. I feel like he'd be pretty cautious before starting a conversation with them, at the very least.
Skylar: Sure.
Cameron: I thought of another question.
Skylar: Sure.
Cameron: This one would be for you, Skyler. Oh, man.
Mikayla: Oh, man.
Cameron: So, of all of Brock's antics that were trying their best to bend the laws of physics of any of them, would you have allowed them for the plot, for the memes cause, his attempted makeshift molotovs, his jumping off of a cliff and, like, essentially trying to fly, I guess, with the airbender?
Skylar: I feel like I gave you so much leeway, man.
Cameron: You definitely also just don't ignore the fact that you just said Brock can break the fourth wall when he's high and then just forced Skyler to have to deal with it. He didn't give Skyler a chance to go, no, wait. No, you just made it a fun fact. It's a done. And he's like, wait, what?
Cameron: It's been established. And he never got high again in the rest of the campaign.
Skylar: I mean, here's the thing. You bugs bunnied and made a tunnel as fast into the ground as Madame Yang was falling through the air.
Cameron: M.
Skylar: I mean, that seems, that seems like I'm pushing it. I mean, you don't see that in any of the earthbenders in Avatar, last airbender. Well, that was pushing it.
Cameron: Maybe they just didn't try hard enough.
Skylar: Oh, they must not skill issue. They must not. They didn't bugs bunny it. So I don't think I would have given you more leeway. I think I, if I could go back, here's, going all the way back to the previous con. One of the first questions, sky, if you could do anything different, what would you change? I would have given broccoli less leeway.
Cameron: That's why I think one of the best episodes for Brock is still his prequel with Bill because he got hurt at the start and actually forced Brock to actually character development. It was literally, like he said, he didn't character. There was one episode, the prequel, because he got hurt at the start of it and he couldn't Earth Bend like Skyler took away bending from it because he lost his feet and he hurt. And he forced Connor and I, Brock, to actually think and actually work and actually have to be arc character arc never got hurt again and then just had all his powers again. And that's why he had no character arc. So if anything, Skylar, we've said go back is somehow give, enforce him through.
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Cameron: He gets tired or fatigued or something that slows him down constantly.
Skylar: Just have this, like, dude come in and just beat the brass legs every couple of episodes.
Cameron: I don't like using my brain, brain.
Skylar: actually going, going off of that just real quick and I know, I know. Cameron, you're next. But just real quick. I can't remember if we talked about it in the prequel episode, but you guys, how did you guys come up with the idea? I know. I just figured the audience would enjoy to hear how you guys came up with the whole concept of the one shot in the first place.
Cameron: It was me. It was you, you mean? Well, basically, David Michaela we're out of town, right? And us three guys were free that night still, right?
Skylar: But you guys came up with the idea before that.
Cameron: Before came up with what idea?
Skylar: For the whole one shot.
Cameron: Did we?
Skylar: Yeah, during the trip to California or whatever.
Cameron: Oh, yeah, that's right. We did come up with it. Yeah, we were on a trip, and me and Connor, just like it was me, Connor, a couple other guys, a, couple of other friends are in this podcast group. Anyways, we were on this trip, and me and Connor talked about doing a one shot on the trip because we were doing a lot of hiking and stuff, and we went into a cave. And while in the cave, we had this idea. We were like, what if Bill and, Brock recorded a podcast in a cave? That was the premise of what we came up with is Bill and Brock started, like, a podcast.
Skylar: Like, from a meta perspective.
Cameron: Yeah, like, in a meta perspective, they started doing a podcast, right? What a blah, blah. That was the joke idea. But then we're like, what if there was a mini one shot episode we ran while we're here, where it's just a Bill Brock one shot, right? And so we took that idea and told Skyler about it, and Skylar's like, I love that. That's a great idea. But just left it at that, right? We just told him about the edit. But then Dave McKaylor gone us, three year old free. And then I messaged Skyler, said, hey, we're all free. Do you want to just make that one shot a reality? And sky said, sure, why not? I need some extra filler episodes.
Skylar: Between seasons, and I'm just aggressively typing out an episode.
Cameron: Like, what are you doing that day?
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: Like.
Skylar: Cause you guys basically gave me, I mean, I cannot stress enough. You guys said, okay, so Connor and I had this crazy idea, right? So it's a one shot where Bill and Brock are in a cave.
Cameron: That was all we gave them.
Skylar: That was all you gave me.
Cameron: And I'm like, whoa, what a brilliant idea.
Skylar: Stressing me out. Furiously started typing.
Cameron: That was the only premise you gave him, was, we are in a cave?
Cameron: That was really all it was. Well, and the only other premise was a Bill Brock, one shot.
Cameron: Bill and Brock.
Cameron: Bill and Brock, one shot.
Cameron: But now, if I may. I'm sorry.
Cameron: I'm asking because they're very much those two characters remember much Yin and Yang to each other where one was slow and methodical and how he approached stuff while the other one was. I run in headfirst and think later. And so putting them together, I thought was, like, the bet, like, the best combination of everyone. And, yeah, I think with that being.
Skylar: Said, what would, what would Amica and Guo wish?
Cameron: Just her getting mad at Guozhouse? No.
Cameron: what kind of adventure would they go on?
Skylar: It would have been interesting to see that.
Mikayla: I don't feel like Mink and Guo had a whole lot of chemistry.
Cameron: Well, I mean, chemistry with anyone married.
Mikayla: Probably most with Brock, because, I mean, we dishwashed.
Dave: I'm not gonna be the one who's like, oh, I'm gonna make you guys all watch this romantic interface with my wife during the podcast.
Skylar: That does sound kind of terrifying.
Cameron: If they were to do one, could you think of an adventure that would.
Cameron: Those two specific characters would have ended up doing?
Cameron: Like, what if Guo tries to drag Mika along to, like, one of his restaurant reviews?
Skylar: That's exactly what I was saying.
Cameron: Or, like, a random food run and.
Cameron: Something goes down in the restaurant, maybe.
Dave: Or go to, like, some.
Cameron: It ends up like an emperor's new.
Dave: Go to some of the kitchen. Micah's fox dog disappears. We have to find it.
Skylar: Ooh, that's pretty good, too.
Cameron: And Bill. Well, Bill's gone and.
Cameron: Wait, Mika had a fox dog.
Cameron: Oh, what was his name?
Skylar: I love that.
Cameron: That's great.
Dave: No, Mopo.
Cameron: The question is, though, is this a prequel or a post call? Like, is this, It works either way because it kind of works better if it's like, after Ash is gone, because he's gone now and stuff, and then Brock is learning.
Skylar: How to read rock.
Mikayla: I feel like that's the only way he would choose me get to go with him. was. If it was.
Skylar: I have no idea.
Mikayla: That's what I feel like. Because, like I said, I think you're right. Have a whole lot of back and forth during the show, I usually paired up with Brock under the assumption I knew him the best, because dishwashing.
Skylar: And we had our whole.
Mikayla: I don't know what me and Ash had. Bill had.
Skylar: Oh, my gosh. It's like a dog napper. So you guys go to the restaurant to, like, try out some new place,
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Skylar: and some sketchy dude steals poe.
Cameron: It could.
Skylar: And then it just goes.
Cameron: And then the way Mika pairs up with Guo is just kind of like, chico's not. Chico's not around. So Guo is there, and she's like, go come help me and stuff. And then that leads into, because the prequel with bro, Bill and Brock, they weren't meant to be together. Bill wanted to go off by himself to go have quiet time alone. On vacation, and Brock followed him because Bill made up some lie about going to a place with cool rocks, and he tried to point Brock down the wrong path. But Brock, thinking Bill was lying to him, followed Bill, thinking he would lead him to the real rocks.
Skylar: Yes.
Cameron: So they weren't even meant to go together, and that's what then led into the thing. So I think them, the Micah and guo, having a joint adventure that wasn't on purpose, but they just accidentally go into it. I think that's kind of more natural for these characters because I don't think Bill and Brock ever would have really interacted.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: Because Bill was way closer with Mika and. Whoa. Then Brock. So, the way we actually forced them together. So I think to do their one shot, they would have to force them together.
Skylar: Sure.
Cameron: Which then would them, maybe after that point would have.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: Shame we didn't do that earlier, because then they would have had that chemistry going forward into the podcast. Like, that's a Phil and Brock did because of that prequel. But I.
Skylar: No, that's a very good point. Yeah, no, I completely agree. Just to. Just a preface. I just want to say real quick from Luke, he did ask, and I want to emphasize this. If we did spin off campaigns, what would they be? and we have. We have definitely answered that. So I just want to establish that I really appreciate Luke for asking this question. I hope we answered it sufficiently. It came up really organically.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: but I think there's some fantastic ideas here, for sure, which is fair.
Cameron: Out of curiosity, what would have happened in our one shot if Brock just decided to. Okay, cool. I'll go down this path and see these other rocks. And so then it just be bill by himself, and then Brock checking out some rocks.
Cameron: Sometimes for the narrative of, storytelling, there's a little railroading. And that was.
Dave: There wouldn't be any cool rocks.
Cameron: Yeah.
Dave: So bad that he would go find.
Cameron: Bill and throw his bo staff in a tree, which is what he did.
Cameron: He, like, took his bo staff. Like, took it away from. And then.
Cameron: And then you kept them. Bill just kept saying the same thing over and over, which was, give me back my bo staff. And then you started calling him mister, gimme back my boast.
Cameron: Well, mister, give me back my boast.
Skylar: Connor, I think exactly what you just described is every DM's nightmare, where a player goes so off this. Like, one single player goes so off the script that it just, like, there is no plot anymore. There's nothing I can even build off of there. It's just gone. All right, you guys have a nice day. You guys go to bed at 08:00 p.m. congratulations.
Cameron: What a great one shot.
Skylar: What a great one shot.
Cameron: I think of all the episodes, though, I think mine and Bill's one shot was one of my favorites.
Skylar: That's fair.
Cameron: That one. And the OSHA.
Skylar: Oh, the Osha was so good. Coming off of the.
Cameron: So I'm catching a theme where you're just letting Brock go off the rails.
Cameron: Cause, I mean, Brock just.
Mikayla: Okay. But Skyler's very much the guy who's like, you know what? I'm interested to see how that plays out.
Cameron: Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
Cameron: You can't just have a guy conjure up a clipboard and walk his way into a factory.
Skylar: And yet, I mean, to be fair, I mean, you look at, like, the avatar last airbender cartoon, and, yeah, they.
Cameron: Did a lot of.
Skylar: There's some crazy, wild, goofy stuff that they managed to pull off, and you're like, it's believable. I could see a bit. It's what they always say. If you were in the right outfit and you walk in with the right amount of confidence, you can pretty much get in anywhere. I think that truly does apply here.
Cameron: I suppose it does.
Skylar: Yeah. I have one question, and I it's one of the sort of last questions that I have, just jumping over to Tamika. Dude, what the heck? We had a whole thing about your blood bending, like, planned out, and you never touched it. It was mentioned in the prequel bender. Yeah. She's been a blood vendor the whole time. That was, like, Bill's a firebender thing.
Mikayla: With my whole backstory. M my mom basically was killed because I was a blood bender.
Skylar: Right. That's true.
Mikayla: So it's not like I was waiting for and more opportune time Mika kill her mom?
Skylar: Like.
Mikayla: No, like, you know, like, how Bill had his whole. Oh, wait. I'm ash, and I'm a firebender. I was waiting for a moment like that for Mika, where she would have to almost be forced to use it.
Cameron: A natural way to put it in.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: Because I don't think Bill would have ever, I don't know, done it if it wasn't for Mika spilling the. And then Guo asking about his scars. I don't think I would have naturally got into that.
Mikayla: Yeah. So I just don't know if Mika would have used her blood bending for something as trivial as, I'm gonna make this guy weak in the knees. You know what I mean?
Skylar: I can use my bend and snap for that.
Mikayla: Until she got to a point where it wasn't seen as a bad thing. Cause, right now with her tribe, it was seen as a very. You're a witch, basically.
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Skylar: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I know that was kind of. Yeah.
Mikayla: So that's probably why I literally did, like. I was like, okay, let's see. Can I put this in here and make it make sense for me? And I. There wasn't a time that I felt.
Skylar: Like, yeah, that's fair.
Mikayla: Maybe I could do it.
Skylar: All right, then jump back to that question again. If there was something that I could change, it would have been to make an opportunity. You know, honestly, I would have thought to myself that just. And I throw back to what I said earlier, like, I feel like Mika got, or at least Mikayla got most frustrated every time that Madam Yang got away. That could have been. You're like, no, freeze. And then also, I could have,
Mikayla: But I think at that point, I was just so used to not using it. I don't know.
Skylar: Yeah.
Mikayla: So I guess that's something I would have changed.
Skylar: But speaking of which, that's gonna be terrifying when that shows up in the live action show.
Cameron: Oh, and the blood bending.
Cameron: Yeah.
Mikayla: Oh, yeah.
Cameron: I imagine it'll look like kind of in demon Slayer where you could see their veins, like, pop up, like, really big.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: Like, if they want to go gross with it, they can go so gross with it.
Mikayla: I always have to.
Dave: Are they doing legends of Korra?
Skylar: Well, that was still avatar last airbender. That was season three.
Cameron: They were in the.
Cameron: Were they in the fire nation?
Skylar: Yes. Right. Because she was living in the fire nation because she had been captured, and m then she escaped, but she was still. Because she was kind of, like, manipulating the people to try to, like, draw him in, and then.
Cameron: Oh, yeah.
Skylar: Like, that was season three. Yeah, somewhere in there. But anyway, sorry, that's not about our show. I mean, sort of.
Cameron: It's about the source material.
Skylar: That's right. That's right. Who's. Who's. I don't even know where we're at.
Cameron: But I have two questions left.
Cameron: But I think I'm all done.
Cameron: Out of questions.
Skylar: Okay. You're out of questions.
Cameron: Yeah. My first one was for Guo.
Skylar: Okay.
Cameron: does Guo ever run into any of his friends from the circus again?
Mikayla: He did run into that one guy.
Cameron: I mean, like, just in the future, do you think any of his friends he would have rekindled a relationship with?
Dave: I would think so. I mean, people probably don't stay with the circus forever. so they might. Or it might come to town and he might go see it. M. so I think he definitely would. And he, Mirabelle is kind of like his childhood, crush. I'm. He's still a child, so who knows? He might try to rekindle that, pursue that in the future. Or he might just try to go for his favorite actress, Fatima. Quick, get her to sponsor the shop in the future.
Skylar: that's right. You know, actually, one of the ideas that I had for a plot line as far as trying to, like, get a kind of an emotional moment, and this would obviously was never planned. This is something I thought of, like, recently would have been, the circus comes to some space that Guo is traveling to. Probably doesn't make sense that it be in gaoling, but I think somewhere else in the earth nation, and Guo just happens to be there. Maybe he's doing his.
Mikayla: They sell the fox dog.
Skylar: Circus. Somebody at the.
Cameron: Wow. This needs to happen.
Skylar: Right? All right, all right. So, yeah, okay. Maybe that's what happens.
Cameron: Whatever the case, one shot.
Skylar: Yeah. Guo ends up at the circus or the carnival, and there's a couple that's also at the carnival, and they're asking about. There was a kid, we more or less sold him to the carnival when he was little, when he was born. Like, do you guys know where he is? Do you know where this Chang dude is? That's who we sold him to. You know, all this kind of stuff. And guo overhears that and, like, I don't know. I feel like there could have been something pretty intense there. maybe I would have been a bit more subtle with it, but that was kind of one idea that I did think of recently, and I was like, dang, that'd be, that's a way to work in quo stuff, but kind of tie all those loose ends. What was your other question, Cameron?
Cameron: The question for Brock Connor.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: And it was actually a question I had.
Cameron: Okay.
Cameron: And that was just curious because you never really talked about it in your prequel, that stuff. Right. It was just, how long were you fighting in the earth rumble arena, and what was your record?
Cameron: Well, I know for a fact he's lost at least one fight.
Cameron: Okay.
Cameron: Because in my prequel episode, he lost.
Skylar: Right. but then he also won.
Cameron: He also won. So he's at least one in one from what we know.
Cameron: Okay.
Cameron: But, I. So, Brock, whenever he was broken out of the prison by his, bestest friend, platonic friend Sora, when he was broken out of prison by Sora, he was kind of tunneled under gowling. And he was, he sort of popped up with Mister Okaron. And so from that point to when benders and brews takes place, about how long, how much time has passed? Like a year.
Skylar: Yeah. Ah,
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Skylar: like a year at most.
Cameron: So he had been kind of looking for other money. So I guess after, like, maybe a week, he went and saw earth rumble and was like, I could probably do this. So I would imagine he'd been doing it for probably at least six months to a year ish. He wasn't good.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: his main goal was to be the guy who's like the fill in fighter. Like, if someone has an injury or something, he's the guy that just steps up like, hey, we need you tomorrow. Come in, take this l. And we're gonna give you a bunch of money. He'd be that guy.
Skylar: Was he the fall guy or he wins sometime.
Cameron: Not like the fall guy, but he'd be like the tune up fight.
Skylar: Okay.
Cameron: Like, Cause earth rumble's real, obviously. Like, wrestling is real. Yeah, it's all real.
Skylar: It's all real.
Cameron: so he would be the guy that they would call in on short notice, like, hey, we just need a body in here for this dude to fight. Come in. We're gonna pay you, x amount of money.
Skylar: Okay.
Cameron: And so he would do that. So he lost a lot.
Cameron: Okay.
Cameron: We'll say he was like five and 15. Five and 15. A respectable loser. There you go.
Skylar: One in three.
Cameron: He had some wins.
Cameron: Yeah, he had some wins where he just stepped up and he was like, you know what? It was my night. There's my night. I got a hold of him and we, we pulled through.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: And then 15 other times.
Skylar: He was not, he was not. That makes a lot of sense.
Cameron: I like that.
Skylar: yeah, because, I mean, all things considered, not to, not to be that guy, but part of the reason why you won was because the guy had been drinking a whole lot.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: In the prequel, which I think it's mentioned in there, but, yeah, so he.
Cameron: he was not the greatest fighter, but it was like a nacho libre situation where he was, he ate the eagle egg. It was more like nacho libre in the sense where he, I mean, sure, in the movie he wanted to win, but it was more like win or lose, you get paid money. And then he would take that money and give it to him.
Skylar: You would buy chips for the orphans.
Cameron: Buy chips for the orphans.
Cameron: That's right.
Cameron: he would give him, like, a salad.
Skylar: You'd get him a salad.
Cameron: But, yeah, it was more than, like, the money from earth rumble he would send back to his family.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: And then the money from the blissful brew is what he would live off of, right?
Skylar: And take pirate ladies on dates with.
Cameron: Take pirate ladies on dates with, which they definitely enjoyed.
Skylar: I mean, that sounds so force.
Cameron: I am trying so hard to make him.
Skylar: You're gonna love this tea.
Cameron: It's amazing. No, I cannot love.
Cameron: And yes, I can.
Dave: From hot, leaf tea.
Cameron: Yeah. That could have been his whole thing. Like, oh, this tea is terrible. And he's just making a scene like this. M brand tea is the worst I have ever drank. I will be taking my patronage elsewhere.
Cameron: Brock would say patronage elsewhere and elsewhere.
Skylar: I do imagine Brock coming in with a fancy mustache. This is quite disgusting tease.
Cameron: This is.
Dave: Sora helped him fine tune the script.
Mikayla: Speaking of hot leaf juice, pizza time 69 wants to know what happened to it.
Skylar: Ooh. So I guess, I mean, that kind of plays into that idea that I had before, right? So. But at the same time, I feel like answering it that way is saying that, like, there's the potential for continuation. I like the plot line that we were coming up with where Bill has to join the Fire Nation, and it comes over and it gets really intense from there. With that being said, I don't see a whole lot of space for the idea of hot leaf juice and the gang kind of. And also, Bill's gone, so, why the gang's not going to get back together to go take down hot leaf juice in various locations. Whitney and Chicra. Mike, what's that?
Mikayla: Mika?
Skylar: Mika and Chica. Now there's a good fly, too. Is that Mika? Mika and Chicra go and do a more with their investigative gate of their investigation business. They, like, go and they get more proof. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get more proof about, like, the orphans and the exploitation and stuff. And then that leads to, from a national level, to some extent, hot leaf juice gets shut down. That's, that's how I imagine it. So there you go.
Cameron: Cool.
Skylar: Yeah, it's a happy ending there. Or at the very least, it gets pushed back to the fire nation. Like, nobody in the other nations wants anything to do with them. they close down their locations in the earth nation and anything that might be in the water nation or. I don't. I think the only nation I didn't have anybody in a hot leaf juice in was the, the, air nation, because I was like, I cannot find a way to justify this. It just doesn't make sense. They don't have money. They don't do money. They, like, trade or just give each other what they need. They're not like that. What. What would Madam Yang gain? So I think that was the only one that didn't have any. Plus, they're gonna get destroyed anyway, so air nation's not gonna be around much longer.
Mikayla: So I didn't care about them. They're gonna die.
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Skylar: That's not my choice. That's what the creators did. Dave? Yeah? You got anything left?
Cameron: Yeah.
Dave: Maybe that's why none of us chose, to be an airbender.
Skylar: Yeah, right. When did you say you were gonna start this? The beginning of the hundred year war. Oh, Skylar, that's.
Dave: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that show's called the last airbender, except for this one guy.
Skylar: That would be hard to justify.
Dave: It's a question from bongo number five. If you could have played one of the. Oh, this is for Skylar. If you could have played one of the NPC's in the series, which one would you choose?
Skylar: Probably, like, if I played him as a character, man, everybody really liked. What was his name? The canadian guard guy.
Cameron: Oh, no.
Skylar: He would have been funny too, though.
Cameron: The canadian guard. Kido.
Skylar: Kido, yes. Everybody loved Kido. I feel like that would. And I had fun doing the voice for it. I feel like it would be him. Yeah, because he's just ridiculous. I feel like he would have been like that. Just kind of a dumb dude, but like, a nice dumb dude that everybody loves. Lovable dumb dude.
Cameron: Like cronk.
Skylar: Yeah, like cronk.
Cameron: Exactly what your voice was very similar to. Yeah, that's kind of what I was going for much.
Cameron: Yeah.
Cameron: Felt like Cronk just showed up in our campaign. Squeaker, squeak, squeak.
Skylar: No, I think one of my favorite. Oh, my gosh. What if you could talk to.
Cameron: I think one of my favorite jokes throughout the whole thing and wasn't even a joke. It was like, kind of like the. The dad joke, that, What kind of thing?
Cameron: What do you like doing without your dad?
Cameron: Yeah, it's like that. It was this off the cuff moment. It was. It was completely off the cuff for Keto, where he said, I heard a.
Skylar: Was a sneeze.
Cameron: A little bit of a cough. And he just. You asked him, and I asked what it sound like. He's like, oh, it sounded like this.
Skylar: And then. And then like some, I think Dave, that was when you started.
Cameron: Dave then threw something at him into.
Skylar: His face, and he goes.
Cameron: It was.
Skylar: The exact same cop.
Cameron: And Bill's just like, well, we got him. I think it was just like, it was, it's one of those, like, the way you did the cough was the exact same way you did the first cough. And you didn't mean to do it.
Skylar: I did not mean.
Cameron: That was the funniest thing I try.
Skylar: It's the limits of my voice capabilities. It's like, I don't normally do this character. This is very much like forcing my voice to do something.
Cameron: I don't think I've laughed that hard. That was the exact same cough. And I was like, case solved, right?
Skylar: There he is, booking. That was pretty great.
Dave: I do have another question.
Skylar: Absolutely.
Dave: I'm here for Bill doar. what was it like hiding such a huge secret for almost the entire series?
Skylar: That's a good question.
Dave: Oh, Bill's fire bending.
Cameron: Yeah, I was gonna say which secret? Because he also hid his name for a while, too.
Cameron: You revealed your name way sooner than you.
Cameron: Oh, yeah, very much. His bigger secret was definitely the firebending. And it wasn't. See, that's the hard thing about the, the fire bending. It wasn't. So when Skyler and I were talking about how Bill would reveal it, Skyler was asking if he wanted me to do specific. Like, he was worried that I would maybe do it in combat or something like that in a moment or was I gonna have a big moment for it or something like that. And he was just concerned when the timing would be for it. And I told him that Bill would never use his firebending until, like, his last resort. Right. Which, because of his trauma, and he was afraid of his firebending, and so, like, he was afraid to use it around anyone. He was afraid he'd hurt someone else. Right. So it wasn't that I was hiding his firebending. It was that Bill was afraid of his firebending, and so, or ash was afraid of his fire bending. So it helped that it wasn't that hard to hide it because of the fact that when you're afraid of something, you always are trying to avoid it. Right. And so Bill was always trying to avoid it. And the only reason I used it in that one episode, and revealed it was because it was, I felt like it was a very important moment for Bill's character to, like, he needed to use his powers again to forgive himself and not take on that blame of his brother's death anymore because it was an accident and he did everything he could to save him, and he couldn't keep that anymore. And that's why I used it. So it wasn't. So
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Cameron: initially, when I created the idea for Bill, I thought he was going to use his power in, like, a moment of desperation, like our, I, imagined, like, our group was trapped. And he had, he always had this ability called pyro wall, which is the one I used. And it was this defensive wall because Bill was trained to be a defender type, so he always tried to use his firepowers for defensive purposes. so he had this ability the whole game. and, it was taking up a slot. It was. I also was trying to hide my character sheet from people all the time. I was constantly trying that. If I had to hide something, it was my character sheet, because on the back, if flat up said pyre wall.
Mikayla: Which was super annoying because I tried to look at your sheets multiple times.
Skylar: You're so snoopy.
Mikayla: Well, he wasn't. Well, that, and, like, he wrote down a couple things. And so I was, like, just trying to see, like, oh, what was that person's name? And I'd be like.
Cameron: Pyro. And Skyler printed it onto it, so it wasn't even in pencil. So I'm just like, it's there and I can't hide it. So anyways, I thought when I had that ability, I thought our group would be cornered and Bill would step forward as the defender and use this ability, and it would be a big moment. But then I realized that moment's not gonna show up. And that's okay because Bill needs to not be forced to do it through the narrative, but he needs to make that conscious decision and, like, forgive himself and m make it and stuff. I will say the, idea for how I came up with Bill was, two parts. One was because of Michaela and I were talking about characters way before character creation. I don't remember what it was, but we were joking about both of us making characters that were one type of bender and then they were a different type of bender. I think she remembers that. And then we all had, like, a hidden twist to our characters.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: And then she said, why don't you just be a firebender to round out our group and stuff? And I said, no, I don't want to be a firebender. I would hate to be a firebender. I'm gonna be like, zuko. I'd be like, sora. M sokka. Thank you. Too many times. Signed sora. But sokka, because Sokka is my favorite character. So I'm like, I'll never be a firebender firebenders are lame. I'm gonna be like, sokka. And then I knew saying that to Mikayla's like, I have to make a character that's secretly a firebender now because I said that specifically to her. But then when I was trying to craft, like, why would I have a firebender that wouldn't want to use this firebending? That's when I, then it, like, came up with this idea. It was like, what if I was a firebender that was afraid of fire?
Skylar: Right?
Cameron: That's where I came up with ideas. Like, has that ever been in Avatar? Is there a firebender afraid of fire? I was like, that's an interesting idea. But then I had to be like, how does that come to be? Right? Because, like, a firebender, how do you become afraid of the thing you create? Right? It'd be like saying earthbender is afraid of rocks. It's like, how do you, how do you create that? And that's when I created the story of him accidentally killing his brother. And then that's how he became afraid of fire and all.
Skylar: Yeah. I mean, there was the moment when Aang was learning, first learning to fire bend, and he accidentally burns Katara in the process. And then he kind of swears it off to some extent. Obviously, he changed that. But I digress.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: Also, so two quick things along with that. So just to clarify with everybody from the get go, that was the plan. Like, we didn't just, like, come up with that part way where we're like, oh, we need, like, some big crazy moment to happen with one of the characters. Oh, my gosh. What if Bill was a fight? Like, just to emphasize we truly had that plan from the beginning that there was going to be that moment where everything just changes and then it's revealed that Bill is a firebiter. On a second note with that, going back to Connor's question about what, are there any hints? One thing that I thought of while you were talking about your character sheet and stuff was the fact that, so we did the Kickstarter project, when avatar legends was pitched, right? And so we were waiting for all the materials to come in. So once the materials came in, I was able to hand stuff out to everybody. It comes with four packets, like, for note taking and stuff like that. And each packet has symbology on it from one of the elements. So I took the water bender booklet. I gave it to Michaela. I had the earthbender booklet. I don't remember. Did I give it to Guo or did I give it to Brock?
Cameron: I think you probably gave it to Brock.
Skylar: I think I did give it to Brock. I gave it to Brock. I had the airbender. Anyone could have gotten that one. I handed it to Guo, and I took the firebender book, and I gave it to Bill just because, and I hope that nobody with, I mean, the airbender one kind of throws it off a little bit because otherwise it would have been, you know, that much funnier. But I digress. Like, he did technically have their booklet, and obviously the audience wouldn't know that.
Cameron: But there was one episode, I don't even remember what it was, but it was when we're doing fun facts and someone revealed, they're like, I'm secretly, I'm secretly an airbender. I think it was like Michaela was joking about Mika's. Like, I'm secretly, Mika's secretly an airbender as well.
Cameron: Right.
Cameron: Whatever. and then, and then Connor, just on a spur of whim, just went, I bet. I bet Bill's secretly a fire. I remember that.
Skylar: Yes.
Cameron: And I think at the moment, I went hot. That's silly.
Cameron: And you're, like, sweating.
Cameron: You're, like, pulling your collar off. I thought it was so funny that just out of nowhere, Brock, Bill, Connor's just like,
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Cameron: yeah, Bill's secretly a firebender, too. Jokingly laughing. I'm just like, yeah, he is.
Skylar: But it would have been so funny if we had you over in the corner and you're just sweating just like Jordan, Peele in that skit where he's like, haha.
Cameron: Slapper.
Skylar: Huh? did anybody not get a question in from their sheet, or did everybody, do we get through?
Cameron: I I guess I had one more, oh, Cameron question, but how did you.
Cameron: Land on the name Bill door?
Cameron: Oh, did I not explain.
Mikayla: He did explain that.
Cameron: It's in my, it was in my prequel, but it basically, I took inspiration from a, I won't, I will say here, because I don't want anyone to.
Mikayla: Be like, sure, you did it. When we all had that tender hearted moment under the tree after I tried.
Cameron: To heal your burns, Brock definitely wasn't listening.
Cameron: No, I don't think it's, I said it then.
Mikayla: I'm pretty sure.
Cameron: Well, then what do you think it was?
Cameron: He saw a guy on a pirate ship building a door. He's like, huh? He's building the doors.
Mikayla: But he definitely was like, yeah. And then I looked at a door, and I was like, it was, it.
Cameron: Was in the pre, I really thought it was, I think I told you guys, just outside of character. But basically it was, it was from Terry Pratchett book where there, there's a character named Death. And he came back to become a human and he didn't know what his name was when someone asked him what his name was. And so what he did was he looked around and he saw like a thing in the house. And he's like, that's my name. And they're like, that's not a name. And so that's what Bill did. Basically. Mister Okron confronted him. He was on the run, so he had to quickly come up with a name. So he looked around the pirate ship and he said, my name's Dor. And he went, door. That's not a name. What are you talking about? Always like, is he? And then Mister Oakland's like, is that your last name? And then he's like, yeah, that's my last name. He's like, what's your first name? And Bill's like, I don't know. Like, what are common names?
Skylar: You said, what are common names?
Cameron: Common names. And then he just started naming off names. I said Bill. And I went, yeah, Bill, my name is Bill doar. And then that's how Bill door, just.
Skylar: To clarify, if you haven't listened to the prequel, you definitely should, I will say obligatory thing.
Cameron: I did find it funny that when Skyler named off names, he named like Kai Jin Ming Bill. And it was like an obvious, like, not named like the other ones. And I was like, skylar, why didn't you think of like, other, like, Jim Bob Bill? Like, that would have made more sense, but whatever.
Skylar: So, we did, we did a one shot, Mikaela and I did a one shot with flying Bison podcast. And I'll never forget to, I had this idea for a character. I don't remember what I had for his original name, but I sent him the character sheet. And then, like, we were about to get started, so everybody's in there in the room. And also, you should definitely check out the flying by Bison podcast. If you enjoyed the benders and brews, you should definitely check out those guys out because they're really awesome. but we're all in the chat, and the one running it, he says, hey, Skyler. And I was like, what's up? And he's like, could you come up with a more avatar esque name for your character? And I was like, oh, Mandy. And I'm like, well, okay, I messed up. So I had to click.
Cameron: If I was on their podcast, they would have made me change my name from Bill Doerr.
Skylar: Maybe. Maybe. I think it's more just the fact of like, you know, and I don't deny that I did pick something that was probably out there. I probably picked like, Jasper or. No, because even that feels like it could work. It was so. I don't know. It was out there.
Cameron: I will say when I created the name Bill door, the idea wasn't like it was supposed to seem like a. Yeah, yeah, that was the point. It was supposed to be like an obvious fake name. Right. And stuff.
Skylar: And wasn't fool.
Cameron: I think everyone in our group even was like, it's clearly a fake name. And they just. I think they even made jokes about it.
Skylar: m Mikaela explicitly making a joke about.
Cameron: But I will say mister Okra knew Bill's real name, but. Because he would have revealed it to in some way. But Bill never revealed to him that he was a firebender.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: That he just kept secret.
Skylar: And I don't know if there's any reason that Mister overrun necessarily would have known that, unless somehow he met somebody along the way and saw information. I don't know. But he definitely. Yeah. Would have known the name. And
Cameron: So I had one final question, really. And I was.
Skylar: That's what you said the last question.
Cameron: Well, then you told the roadmap Connor asked a question. That's what was. But anyways, my question was, I talked about how I created Bill.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: And I wanted to know how the three of you created your characters.
Skylar: Like what was your and what was your inspiration?
Cameron: I guess I'll start with Brock. Cause I feel like yours is the simplest compared to the other two.
Cameron: So, yeah, basically I wanted to create a character that was just dumb as a post and didn't have to use my brain a lot because this was something we were doing in our spare time and I didn't want to have to do a ton of thinking. Plus, it was like my first character in a sort of D and D, his first rpg.
Skylar: That's true.
Cameron: And I figured I'd go with one that matches closely to a personality to my already actual real life personality wealth. Yes.
Mikayla: I don't know if I would agree with that.
Cameron: To be fair,
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Cameron: most people, for their first, like, D and D character rpg character, they typically make their first character very similar to themselves. And that's also what I would recommend as a DM, is make a character close to yourself. Cause it makes role playing easier. Yeah. And then the more you play, the more you learn. You can then start kind of pushing those bounds and stuff.
Cameron: I feel like if I were to do another campaign, I would want to try and venture out, do something that's not so close to a hard headed personality. but it was very fun to play with. I wanted to do one that was an earthbender because I really liked Toph and the show. I also felt that, like, firebender? Nah, airbender. It's a prequel to the hundred year war, so it's not gonna end up great for them. So I figured Earthbender. Cause I also really liked the earth rumble six episode where Toph beat the bowling.
Mikayla: Waterbender didn't even cross your body.
Skylar: No, no.
Cameron: So I want. So then I thought, okay, I'll build a character that's basically like the kid who grows up to be just like the boulder.
Cameron: The Boulder feels conflicted about fighting a young blind girl.
Skylar: What an inspirational character. It's funny you say that. You didn't. If you played again or played a different TTRPG, you wouldn't want to play a character that's just yourself, basically. But ironically, and we have this coming out in November. We did a. It's called Black Friday of the dead. It's an all flesh must be eaten one shot. Kiva. And you literally. And to be fair, it was forced on you. You literally play your literally. Connor, you work as a news reporter guy.
Cameron: I'm diabetic in the. Diabetic. To be fair, that character was created without the intention of me actually playing.
Skylar: That's also true. You were supposed to be an NPC of yourself, and then you. It's very complex. So if that's something you're interested in, keep an eye out for that in November. But, what about Michaela? What was your m back story to your. Not your backstory to your character, but the character creation?
Mikayla: I don't know. I feel like I was talking to Cameron about character creations, and I think I told him I'd do a waterbender or firebender.
Skylar: How'd you lean on water?
Mikayla: I, think because I liked, what's her face in the show.
Skylar: Katara. Yeah, fair enough.
Mikayla: and then I just wanted something more unique. M that's why the blood bending, which we never used, was in there.
Skylar: It was always there. I was always one, like, at any given moment, I wasn't sure if you were gonna bust that out. And, I mean, I think there's people over here winking at you aggressively.
Mikayla: Yeah, blood bend.
Skylar: Maybe now. And you didn't. But at the same time, like, I'm always, like, wondering, is she gonna, You kept me on my toes on that one all the way to the end, man. My anxiety was spiked.
Mikayla: Still people, still people.
Cameron: Imagine how spiked it was because not only did she have blood bending, but Bill had the, fire bending him the whole time. So he had two different people who at any moment could just burst. And you're like, oh, finally ash revealed his abilities. But there's still Mika.
Mikayla: I think there was one point where I was, like, ready to use it, but I think somebody else did something, and then I was like. And then I didn't feel like it would be as meaningful.
Skylar: M. Yeah.
Mikayla: I don't know. Anyway, but. And then I feel like I always play a, darker person.
Skylar: It's true. You like playing the emo esque characters, edge lord.
Mikayla: But I feel like in the flying bison, I was not as emo.
Skylar: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Mikayla: So I did. If you want a different side of.
Skylar: That, check out that.
Mikayla: Really. Go check it out.
Skylar: You'll see. Yeah. The vendors and brews characters mentioned, in there, so. Or, well, our us as players, I guess. What about Dave? What inspired Guo Hun? Where did Guohan, where was he birthed from?
Dave: I think just like, trying to think of backstories, like the circus. And then I like the cliche of running away from home to join the circus. I'm like, what if I reversed that?
Skylar: Hey.
Dave: And then, so just like, this young kid who is a little vulnerable, is looking for a home somewhere to fit in. guo in chinese means, like wall. So, like, I had the idea of, like, oh, he's got these walls built up around himself. I didn't really get into that that much. I mean, he was pretty friendly with all you guys.
Cameron: it would have been weird having two very edgy characters.
Dave: You know, I got a feel for the group like Cameron's because I also had in mind, like, oh, whoa. Could be like a defensive, more defensive character. But then Cameron's character was kind of offensive and, like, mika's character was kind of, like, more shut off from people.
Skylar: Right.
Dave: So then I leaned into the more of, like, the, being
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Dave: the youngest member, kind of being goofy, like Aang is in the show. Yeah, he's the youngest.
Skylar: I love it. Yeah, I think you nailed it too.
Mikayla: Like, the care free support, light hearted characters.
Cameron: Yeah. The carefree support.
Skylar: Yes.
Cameron: Stealing hats and snapping things.
Cameron: Yeah. Also, you becoming the captain.
Skylar: That was.
Dave: I almost said that one by, like, was that even recorded?
Cameron: Was that recorded?
Cameron: Things went, off.
Skylar: The thing that we lost was when you guys were escaping the ship, and then I think we lost a bunch of that, so we just had to reference it. So I just had you guys, like, basically, we got up to the moment that you guys jumped off, and then we had to rerecord you guys getting to shore. So it was almost like, a weird cutscene.
Cameron: But we did have him pretending to be the captain.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: Okay. That's all.
Cameron: Had the hat.
Cameron: That's all that matters.
Dave: Yeah, we did have that. Then, like, I think we stopped recording, and then, like, I made another joke of, like, I've got two peg legs.
Skylar: I remember that.
Cameron: That was funny. I also like that it was a post recording.
Skylar: Where was, you asked. It was Mister M. I think it was Mister Okaran when you guys met him in the spirit world and stuff like that. And then, like, you asked him, you're like, whatever happened to my captain's hat? And Mister Okaran just says, I'm sorry, guo. It's at the bottom of a very big ocean, because it would have been when you guys jumped out.
Cameron: Well, you also referenced the hat multiple times after that, too, so it was funny that, like, we all. I did find that funny when we all went, we're talking Mister okra in spirit world, and all of us asked, like, kind of important questions, and then Guo's just like, where's my hat?
Mikayla: But that goes with being the youngest.
Cameron: That goes with. Yeah. dude.
Skylar: Oh, my gosh. And that would fit so well into the idea that Guo has a floating island, Restaurant.
Cameron: On the rest, we're looking for the.
Dave: Hat, and he'd have one piece.
Skylar: Yeah.
Dave: The hat's my treasure.
Skylar: Oh, my gosh.
Mikayla: I feel like with all of our one piece references, we just need to do a spin off because he said he's gonna be a pirate.
Cameron: I actually am working on a campaign that we're gonna record in the future that is themed. It was a combination of one piece and bioshock infinite.
Skylar: Nice. Which.
Cameron: So the whole planet is island nations, and the over top of the island nations is a giant. Like, it's basically water nations, one piece. And then above it is a gigantic, like, cloud country.
Cameron: Nice.
Skylar: So, yeah, so keep an eye out for an ear. I always say that. Keep an ear out for that.
Cameron: I think I have a name for it, too, but that's a good name. That's actually a board game.
Skylar: It's a really fun.
Cameron: Oh, what was the hold on, hold on. I had a name. It was based from a song, from the postal company. Such great heights.
Skylar: Such great heights.
Cameron: That was the name of the.
Skylar: Oh, I think I know that song. Okay.
Cameron: Ah.
Cameron: Out of curiosity, because I just thought of this question. So, Guo, not Nicole, Bill's final thing was the fire thing. Mika's, like, secret ability was the blood bending. What was Guo's last resort move? I don't know if you ever used it.
Cameron: Well, no, I'm the only one that used my. Well, I was the only one that used my moment of whatever it was.
Cameron: Moment of truth.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: Were you ever hiding a secret from the game master?
Dave: No, it's Connors referring to the moment of balance.
Cameron: Oh.
Dave: I. My character. I kind of. I don't know. I just like the role. Whatever character, type I picked, I had trouble playing it, kind of because it was supposed to be all about, like, confiding in other people and, like, asking for guidance, which you think would be easier, but I don't know. I just struggle with.
Skylar: No, I mean, I'm right there with you. I mean, I think we can all probably agree jumping into, because we came from a lot of, like, d and d background and things like that. Jumping into avatar legends, it's a very different game, even more so than, like, we played monster of the week, which is also a powered by the apocalypse game. And this felt so vastly different just because there were so many of those kind of emotional elements that they kind of, I don't want to say forced, but, like, they've implemented a lot of opportunity to engage with things very. From an emotional standpoint, like, create dialogue and stuff like that. And it's hard to come from games where everything's so stat and role focused into having such a heavy role play game. So I was lost in, a lot of that kind of stuff, too. I know that it took us maybe, like, till season three to actually have a pretty solid grasp on the rules, honestly, at some point. So, yeah, don't. I wouldn't feel bad by any means, because it. It's a very weirdly complicated game for being weirdly simple.
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Cameron: But what was his like?
Dave: I would have to read it. it's something like calling somebody to adhere to their true values or something.
Cameron: to be fair, me and Michaela's didn't just say, use your firebending. Like, it's. It's just. It's basically in the rules. It's basically a moment where you get a pause the game and just take control of the scene. You basically say DM. it's basically an Aangs avatar state, right? Oh, I was gonna reveal that in the AMA. Yes, I've seen the show. I don't think I ever revealed that at all. But, yes, that was the big catalyst. No, but there was. But Aang's avatar state. And so it. The moment of balance is basically your character's avatar state, where basically you get this big moment where you get to describe it. And basically the DM steps back and says, yeah, take the scene. Right, which is, for example, Bill's scene.
Skylar: Right? Like, you win.
Cameron: Yeah, you'll win the moment, and you get to do basically whatever you want, which kind of. What was Brock doing the whole time? But anyways, do whatever you want. Do whatever you want.
Dave: I looked up. So Guo was the adamanta. so his moment of balance was, you've held true to a core conviction even while getting your hands dirty to do what you deemed necessary. But balance means appreciating that other people are just as complex as you are, not merely obstacles or pawns. Tell the GM m how you solve an intractable problem or calm a terrible conflict by relating to dangerous people on a human level.
Cameron: I don't know. I just. Wow, that'd be a hard one to Adam Yang.
Dave: And she's a monster.
Cameron: Yeah. What kind of situations did we find ourselves in where that would have been applicable? Or would we have found any situations where that would have been?
Cameron: Maybe more. Find the Fire nation guys.
Skylar: Mm
Cameron: Like, if we, like, if we ran into, like, a group of them in that, like, that break in mission we did.
Skylar: Oh, yeah.
Cameron: Or maybe could have worked.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: Yeah.
Dave: Like some of the horrif employees who weren't totally brainwashed.
Skylar: or maybe it kind of unbroken, like, broke him out of it or something. To some extent, that could have been. Yeah.
Cameron: But I don't know.
Skylar: You kind of did do that.
Dave: No.
Skylar: when you guys were escaping the factory, and then you sort of shotgun to the pebbles to kind of.
Cameron: But he broke them out with damage and not with words, which is what? His moment.
Skylar: Right.
Cameron: Balance. but, I mean, that could have.
Skylar: Been a really cool opportunity.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: Yeah.
Cameron: He raises his flag above him. He goes, we don't have to stand for this tyranny no more. And then they all turn and they see the rays of Gordon, the captain, now behind him, and they all the shades of, mind control falls away.
Skylar: That would have been awesome. Well, I think that's all of the questions that we kind of had written down for everybody. Want to thank, obviously, all of you guys for playing the game, for being a part of this awesome story that we got to tell. Obviously, I want to thank everybody that sent us questions. Huge appreciation there. Want to thank, obviously, everybody that listened for enjoying the show. Hopefully. I'd assume if you listen this far and, had a good time as we told this amazing story. It's been a long journey, but it was a lot of fun.
Cameron: Yeah.
Skylar: Be sure to check out our other series, obviously, all our other one shots and other shows that sessions of your heroes. We're not done telling stories. We're just closing this one out. Just really want to emphasize that, whatever the case, we'll see you guys next time on session Zero heroes. Hey, everyone. Skylar, the game master for benders and brews and the creative director over at session Zero Heroes here. I just wanted to give you a quick outro before you head over to the next episode or call it a day. Firstly, thank you so much for listening to our show. It means so much to us to have such amazing people like yourself that enjoy the content that we produce. Without you, there really wouldn't be much point in all the work that we put into recording, editing, and sharing our TTRPG sessions with all of you. With that being said, we would love it if you would throw some love our way and drop us a review or a rating or whatever it is called, wherever you're listening to the show, based on whatever platform that allows you to leave reviews and leave recommendations. It means a lot to us to get to hear why you love the show we make, and it, it also helps the show reach other listeners as well, allowing us to grow our community. So if you're feeling especially generous, you could even go as far as to share our show to your friends and family who also enjoy TTRBG actual play podcasts. It's really expensive for us to be able to advertise and we don't do much of it, so it's a lot more help to have you guys share it with people that you know will enjoy it and then they can join in the community that we're creating. That
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